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Re: Jake Shirt from poolbargarb.com

Postby Fretman » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:47 pm

SHREDDER1 wrote:FOR THOSE THAT DON`T KNOW.WHEN THEY STARTED THIS T-SHIRT
PROJECT.THEY USED OUR INITIAL MONEY TO FUND THE SHIRTS AND
INK.IT DOES`NT EVEN TAKE MORE THEN A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS INVESTMENT TO GET THINGS OFF THE GROUND.HE CHOSE TO USE OUR
MONEY AS INVESTMENT SO,HE WOULD`NT HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET.
THAT IS IT IN A NUTSHELL.

PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY BUY MORE SHIRTS IF THEY KNEW THEY
COULD GET THEM IN A REASONABLE TIME.



























GET.PERSONALLY,I THINK IT`S UNEXC


Shredder...where are you getting your info, because it's completely false. Did someone tell you this, or is this just an assumtion on your part? Personally, what I find unacceptable, is for someone with no inside knowledge of this project to post information like this as fact, when in fact, it's a bunch of BS, has no merit, and it frankly pisses me off.

No one's money was used up front to fund this project, it was funded completely out of pocket. These shirts were merely an idea by a fan to help promote this website and generate a little extra scratch for the site. The owner of Poolgarb had no delusions of making any real profits on this...he is a fan and has a real job. These shirts are about to come to an end.

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Re: Jake Shirt from poolbargarb.com

Postby SHREDDER1 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:52 pm

WHEN THE INITIAL ORDERS WERE ALL LATE.I E-MAILED RAY AND SIMPLY
ASKED HIM.MY ASSUMPTIONS WERE ABSOLUTLEY CORRECT.HE USED OUR MONEY TO FUND THIS SHIRT PROJECT.RAY ASKED JEFF TO INVEST
BUT,HE REFUSED.I KNOW THIS CAUSE I WROTE JEFF MY CONCERN`S AND
RECEIVED A REPLY.I ASSUME YOU WERE ASKED ALSO? RAY WROTE ME
BACK AN HONEST REPLY TO THESE QUESTIONS.HE OFFERED MY MONEY
BACK AND WAS NICE ENOUGH TO THROW IN A COUPLE BEER COZIES.



MY INFO IS DIRECTLY FROM THE SOURCE.THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR
ANY CONSUMER NOT TO GET THERE GOODS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
1,2, OR 3 MONTHS IS UNEXCEPTABLE.DOES`NT MATTER IF THEY ARE A
FAN OR FRIEND. IF RAY`S NOT MAKING ANY MONEY OFF THIS ,HE SHOULD`NT BE OFFERING THEM.IT`S NOT WORTH THE HEADACHE
OR EFFORT.IS IT FAIR THAT POSTER GINA SHOULD RECEIVE HER
SHIRT 3 MONTHS AFTER THE FACT?


JAKE,I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
PM YOUR # OR E-MAIL ME IF YOU STILL HAVE IT.I`M NOT ANGRY WITH
YOU IN ANY WAY AND I`D LIKE TO CLEAR THINGS UP BUT, I WOULD ALSO
LIKE YOU TO BE HONEST WITH BOARD.IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO IT OPENLY LIKE THIS,THAT WILL BE ACCEPTABLE.

HOPE ALL IS WELL WITH YOU AND YOURS

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Re: Jake Shirt from poolbargarb.com

Postby Fretman » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:53 pm

SHREDDER1 wrote:WHEN THE INITIAL ORDERS WERE ALL LATE.I E-MAILED RAY AND SIMPLY
ASKED HIM.MY ASSUMPTIONS WERE ABSOLUTLEY CORRECT.HE USED OUR MONEY TO FUND THIS SHIRT PROJECT.RAY ASKED JEFF TO INVEST
BUT,HE REFUSED.I KNOW THIS CAUSE I WROTE JEFF MY CONCERN`S AND
RECEIVED A REPLY.I ASSUME YOU WERE ASKED ALSO? RAY WROTE ME
BACK AN HONEST REPLY TO THESE QUESTIONS.HE OFFERED MY MONEY
BACK AND WAS NICE ENOUGH TO THROW IN A COUPLE BEER COZIES.



MY INFO IS DIRECTLY FROM THE SOURCE.THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR
ANY CONSUMER NOT TO GET THERE GOODS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
1,2, OR 3 MONTHS IS UNEXCEPTABLE.DOES`NT MATTER IF THEY ARE A
FAN OR FRIEND. IF RAY`S NOT MAKING ANY MONEY OFF THIS ,HE SHOULD`NT BE OFFERING THEM.IT`S NOT WORTH THE HEADACHE
OR EFFORT.IS IT FAIR THAT POSTER GINA SHOULD RECEIVE HER
SHIRT 3 MONTHS AFTER THE FACT?


JAKE,I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
PM YOUR # OR E-MAIL ME IF YOU STILL HAVE IT.I`M NOT ANGRY WITH
YOU IN ANY WAY AND I`D LIKE TO CLEAR THINGS UP BUT, I WOULD ALSO
LIKE YOU TO BE HONEST WITH BOARD.IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO IT OPENLY LIKE THIS,THAT WILL BE ACCEPTABLE.

HOPE ALL IS WELL WITH YOU AND YOURS

CHRIS


Shredder,

Prior to my last post I called Ray and asked him. His response was that he put up all of the initial money for these shirts. However, prior to ordering 500 of them he wanted to see how many orders he would initially get (are there 5 orders a day? 1 every other day?) so that he could gage what kind of inventory to purchase, and thus not be stuck with 1000 shirts that no one was going to purchase. Is that funding the project with order money? No, I don't think so.

FOR THOSE THAT DON`T KNOW.WHEN THEY STARTED THIS T-SHIRT
PROJECT.THEY USED OUR INITIAL MONEY TO FUND THE SHIRTS AND
INK.IT DOES`NT EVEN TAKE MORE THEN A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS INVESTMENT TO GET THINGS OFF THE GROUND.HE CHOSE TO USE OUR
MONEY AS INVESTMENT SO,HE WOULD`NT HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET.
THAT IS IT IN A NUTSHELL.

Shredder...this is not what you were told. I'm just going to assume that you misunderstood the situation, or misunderstood what you were being told. I live 5 minutes away from your source of info and I think I have a better understanding of what went on than you do. I PM'd you early on and told you this wasn't the case, did you read it?

1,2, OR 3 MONTHS IS UNEXCEPTABLE.DOES`NT MATTER IF THEY ARE A
FAN OR FRIEND. IF RAY`S NOT MAKING ANY MONEY OFF THIS ,HE SHOULD`NT BE OFFERING THEM

I agree that it is too long to receive the merchandise and once the current inventory is gone no more will be offered.

I WOULD ALSO
LIKE YOU TO BE HONEST WITH BOARD

Are you questioning my honesty? If you think that I am trying to mislead the board about this t-shirt BS then you don't know me very well. I have better things to do with my time. If I have to then I'll just have Ray come in here and post the details as they were and that should put the question of my honesty to rest.

Below is a copy of the PM I sent you in July 2007 regarding this very subject:

From: Fretman
To: SHREDDER1
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:54 pm
Subject: Re: jake shirt`s
SHREDDER1 wrote:
Jake,
Lonf time no talk brother.Hope your doing well.

My question is what is the deal the the Jake t-shirt`s?......people
have been waiting for over a month for there shirt`s.I ordered
mine a couple of weeks ago.i did get into contact with Ray and
he did tell me they would start shipping last week.

Did he put up the money for the first batch or did use the money
for the order`s to finance the shirt`s?That would account for the delay.I think everyone was under the impression that the merchandise
was ready to go,including myself.

If there was a problem,Ray should be honest and post it on the board and let everyone know.

What do you think?....you know better then I.

Hope your doing well and we`ll exchange e-mail`s soon!!!!!CHRIS

Hey Chris!

Ray is putting up the initial investment in this project, but I'm sure he didn't want to stock 200 of each choice until he had a feel of what the volume may be. Now that he can see the volume I'm sure he has stocked accordingly. It is my understanding that all shirts will go out within 2-3 days from this point forward.

Everyone who ordered a shirt will get the shirt, and the shirt will be of good quality. In fact, when you receive yours it would be cool for you to comment about what you think...good or bad.

These shirts are going to be cool. A percentage goes to the website, and if they sell a decent amount then I'm sure more choices of merchandise will become available in the future as well.

Good to hear from you man! Give me un update on what you're doing, and what your playing these days.

LATER!!

Jake

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Re: Jake Shirt from poolbargarb.com

Postby SHREDDER1 » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:12 am

JAKE,
PM YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS.I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT I KNOW
IF I E-MAIL YOU.I`M AT WORK AND I`LL HAVE MORE TO WRITE
FROM HERE.

TAKE CARE

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Re: Jake Shirt from poolbargarb.com

Postby mrmetal » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:43 am

:lol: .... for once, I am not involved. :lol: I am going to post a video of me making a kick ass t-shirt that will blow all other t-shirts away! :lol:

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