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who do you think will win the USA 2008 election?

Republicans
8
42%
Democrats
11
58%
 
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Re: Who will win?

Postby bubbles » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:28 am

frethead wrote:Oops, you're absolutely right, Will! I guess I was caught -up in the moment, or something. There ain't no freaking Queen of Europe, heh? Damn, I was trying to make a "clean break" and thinking how funny everyone would think I am, too! LOL
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Re: Who will win?

Postby frethead » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:06 am

O, me :lol: It hurts! :lol: Stop it! :lol:
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Re: Who will win?

Postby johnthebrucelee » Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:53 pm

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politi ... y.vote.cnn

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Re: Who will win?

Postby frethead » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:02 pm

In the words of, apparently, some bumper sticker in Dallas, Texas. . .

I'll keep my freedom, my guns, and my money. You can keep the change.

This is cool www.allmyfaves.com Pick a site ! 'BOOM' There it is !
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Re: Who will win?

Postby harddriver » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:56 pm

Bush's administration has been a complete tragedy for this country. Cant wait til that assclown loser is gone forever.

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Re: Who will win?

Postby bubbles » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:17 am

I was awake during the early hours of this morning UK time and listened to the results come in. I was delighted that the US election was carried out in good spirits and with a record turn out, which included some adults who had never voted before! (adults not using its democratic entitlement is a pet hate of mine :evil: ).
Should you have voted R or D I think you should all be proud of what this election has achieved, both candidates behaved very well on the day.
With the election of the first black man to the highest office in the world. Many people will look at the USA with admiration and this will build bridges across nations.

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Re: Who will win?

Postby Vernon » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:48 pm

Hey All,
Whoo Hooo!!
I'm as happy as I can be.
Obama is the man!!
I got into a political conversation with some friends here 8 years ago and I couldn't believe how opposite my political opinions were with friends I've had for years here.

Obama is the best thing for this country.At least now maybe the rest of the world won't dislike us so much.

Obama.....socialist....give me a break.
Funny posts by people here.

We're gonna get the fuck out of Iraq.
Stem cell research....abortion rights.....no more Jesus freaks in the white housw.
Happy days are here again :lol:

The US government has never been bigger and more bloated with foolish money spending than under George Bush and his republicans.

Now that Obama is in.....we yankee liberals are gonna have our say for at least the next 4 years!!!
Fuck yeah!!! :D :D :D
Can't wait until I see George Bush get on his plane for the very last time.
I'll be flipping him off as he's waving good bye for the last time.
later,
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Re: Who will win?

Postby frethead » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:53 pm

Yay! One consolation, it seems there isn't going to be an intolerable mass movement of rioting, violence, and destruction. There's that happy face! On another even more unsettling front, the Democratic majority in Congress remains, and in greater numbers! Therefore, if you have been disappointed with the government for the last four years, you're certain to be disappointed for atleast four more. Then, there's the War. What do you say we send in our guy who speaks really, really well?
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Re: Who will win?

Postby mrmetal » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:00 am

Vernon wrote:Hey All,
Whoo Hooo!!
I'm as happy as I can be.
Obama is the man!!
I got into a political conversation with some friends here 8 years ago and I couldn't believe how opposite my political opinions were with friends I've had for years here.

Obama is the best thing for this country.At least now maybe the rest of the world won't dislike us so much.

Obama.....socialist....give me a break.
Funny posts by people here.

We're gonna get the fuck out of Iraq.
Stem cell research....abortion rights.....no more Jesus freaks in the white housw.
Happy days are here again :lol:

The US government has never been bigger and more bloated with foolish money spending than under George Bush and his republicans.

Now that Obama is in.....we yankee liberals are gonna have our say for at least the next 4 years!!!
Fuck yeah!!! :D :D :D
Can't wait until I see George Bush get on his plane for the very last time.
I'll be flipping him off as he's waving good bye for the last time.
later,
Vernon


I have to say that I agree with you about Bush's administration being a complete mess. Not a true Republican administration, I might add. In fact, some of his policies are the most bloated and liberal than any Democrat would put forth. The fact that they spent so much - without raising taxes to pay for the programs is very immoral to say the least.

I do have to disagree with you on the socialist front though my friend, Obama does have some very Marxist and Socialistic idealology in his head. All you have to do is read some of his writings to note that. To take from the well off, just because they are and give to the less than well off is a socialist principle. Poor people do not create jobs, or businesses, or wealth, if they could, they would.

Do you really think the super rich are going to foot the bill my friend? They know where to hide their money. They are smarter than the average politician in Washington and many have them on their payroll, so the super rich are not going to get socked with anything - it is working stiffs like me with families that are going to get reamed.

I am also willing to bet that we are not leaving Iraq anytime soon and would also be willing to say that we most likely will be there during his entire term.

Abortion rights? Who fucking cares? That doesn't impact my life one way the other, that is personal belief not that one will have to answer to one's self. I believe that a human life is a human life, not to be taken because it may be inconvient for someone that wasn't thinking in the first place.

I would also add that Bush did support stem cell research, as most people do. I think he didn't support using stem cells from aborted fetuses - which is a little odd I think. They are already dead, so what's the difference? Anyway, I read somewhere that they can grow these things in a lab anyway now, so that is really a mute point.

Maybe the attitude of the nation will change with just a simple administration change, but I think once President Obama gets in there, we will still have the same problems and issues with just as much difficulty moving forward in addition to facing a possible US bankruptcy.....

Personally, I didn't vote because I don't think it makes one bit of difference who is in office. It is all a big show for people to worked up over and conceal the true idenity of who is pulling the strings. At the end of the day, I still have a mortgage to pay for, raising consumer prices to deal with, a job to keep (or find, if I lose this one because of things out of my control), and less and less free disposable income to help stimulate and grow the economy.

In short, I will keep checking the mail for my Obama prize to come in, but I am not holding my breath. :lol:

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Re: Who will win?

Postby Vernon » Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:34 pm

Hey mrmetal,
You're a smart man and a good friend to me.
I agree with most of what you had to say.

No need to repeat what I already wrote but I will say that I'll bet (I'm hoping at least) that we'll be out of Iraq in a year and a half.

Realistically.....nothing ever >really< changes in Washington.

Abortion really doesn't impact my life except for the fact that unwanted childern end up growing up and becoming a major drain on our society.

I do love my country dearly.
I just hate George Bush.

later...

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Re: Who will win?

Postby bubbles » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:44 am

Vernon wrote:I just hate George Bush.

later...


This is what promoted the US as the hate figure it has become, Anti USA feeling across Europe was not really pointed at ordinary Americans but at what other nations thought of bad foreign policy.

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Re: Who will win?

Postby frethead » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:37 am

Did you know that this year marks the first in fifty, that neither a Bush or a Kerry is in federal office? Why not hate the President, when the next one has promised free health care, free housing, food stamps and jobs for everyone? Pretty soon, it appears that if Ohalfablackman gets his way, everyone with the exception of him and his family will be relegated to living off of each other, after he sells off the military and hands the planet, at a Presidential supper, to the Muslims. At that point, you'll be able to thank him for taking that pesky "American Dream" off of your hands. Redistribution of wealth? Give me a frickin' bareak! Anyway, I found this in my E-mailbox today, and even if you don't find this to be constructive in our little debate, it certainly is thought provoking.


David Letterman on President Bush (Surprising)



' As most of you know I am not a President
Bush fan, nor have I ever been, but this is not
about Bush, it is about us, as Americans, and it
seems to hit the mark.
'The other day I was reading Newsweek
magazine and came across some Poll data I found
rather hard to believe. It must be true given
the source, right?
The Newsweek poll alleges that 67
percent of Americans are unhappy with the
direction the country is headed and 69 percent of
the country is unhappy with the performance of
the President. In essence 2/3 of the citizenry
just ain't happy and want a change. So being the
knuckle dragger I am, I started thinking, 'What
are we so unhappy about?''

A.. Is it that we have electricity and
running water 24 hours a day, 7 Days a week?


B.. Is our unhappiness the result of
having air conditioning in the summer and heating
in the winter?


C.. Could it be that 94.0 percent of
these unhappy folks have a job?


D.. Maybe it is the ability to walk
into a grocery store at any time and see more
food in moments than Darfur has seen in the last
year?


E.. Maybe it is the ability to drive our
cars and trucks from the Pacific Ocean to the
Atlantic Ocean without having to present
identification papers as we move through each
state?


F.. Or possibly the hundreds of clean
and safe motels we would find along the way that
can provide temporary shelter?


G.. I guess having thousands of
restaurants with varying cuisine from around the
world is just not good enough either.


H. Or could it be that when we wreck
our car, emergency workers show up and provide
services to help all and even send a helicopter
to take you to the hospital.


I.. Perhaps you are one of the 70
percent of Americans who own a home.

J.. You may be upset with knowing that
in the unfortunate case of a fire, a group of
trained firefighters will appear in moments and
use top notch equipment to extinguish the flames,
thus saving you, your family, and your
belongings.

K.. Or if, while at home watching one
of your many flat screen TVs, a burglar or
prowler intrudes, an officer equipped with a gun
and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you
and your family against attack or loss.

L.. This all in the backdrop of a
neighborhood free of bombs or militias raping and
pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where
90% of teenagers own cell phones and computers.


M.. How about the complete religious,
social and political freedoms we enjoy that are
the envy of everyone in the world?


Maybe that is what has 67% of you folks unhappy.


Fact is, we are the largest group of
ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever
seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S. , yet
has a great disdain for its citizens. They see
us for what we are. The most blessed people in
the world who do nothing but complain about what
we don't have, and what we hate about the country
instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.


I know, I know. What about the
president who took us into war and has no plan to
get us out? The president who has a measly 31
percent approval rating? Is this the same
president who guided the nation in the dark days
after 9/11? The president that cut taxes to
bring an economy out of recession? Could this
be the same guy who has been called every name in
the book for succeeding in keeping all the
spoiled ungrateful brats safe from terrorist
attacks? The commander in chief of an
all-volunteer army that is out there defending
you and me?


Did you hear how bad the President is
on the news or talk show? Did this news affect
you so much, make you so unhappy you couldn't
take a look around for yourself and see all the
good things and be glad? Think about
it......are you upset at the President because he
actually caused you personal pain OR is it
because the 'Media' told you he was failing to
kiss your sorry ungrateful behind every day.
Make no mistake about it.


The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have
volunteered to serve, and in many cases may have
died for your freedom. There is currently no
draft in this country. They didn't have to go.
They are able to refuse to go and end up with
either a ''general'' discharge, an 'other than
honorable'' discharge or, worst case scenario, a
''dishonorable' ' discharge after a few days in
the brig.


So why then the flat-out discontentment
in the minds of 69 percent of Americans?


Say what you want but I blame it on the
media. If it bleeds it leads and they
specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a
car crash with blood and guts. How many will
watch kids selling lemonade at the corner? The
media knows this and media outlets are for-profit
corporations. They offer what sells, and when
criticized, try to defend their actions by
'justifying' them in one way or another.


Turn off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New
York Times for the bottom of your bird cage.
Then start being grateful for all we have as
country. There is exponentially more good than
bad. We are among the most blessed people on
Earth and should thank God several times a day,
or at least be thankful and appreciative.' 'With
hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud
slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up
the country from one end to another, and with the
threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, 'Are we
sure this is a good time to take God out of the
Pledge of Allegiance?'

David Letterman

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Re: Who will win?

Postby mrmetal » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:47 am

bubbles wrote:
Vernon wrote:I just hate George Bush.

later...


This is what promoted the US as the hate figure it has become, Anti USA feeling across Europe was not really pointed at ordinary Americans but at what other nations thought of bad foreign policy.


I never understood this either. I work with many Europeans in my work - they are always quick to bitch about the US and the President and I ask them, "and this has what bearing on your country and your life?"

They never can answer that.

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Re: Who will win?

Postby mrmetal » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:54 am

Vernon wrote:Hey mrmetal,
You're a smart man and a good friend to me.
I agree with most of what you had to say.

No need to repeat what I already wrote but I will say that I'll bet (I'm hoping at least) that we'll be out of Iraq in a year and a half.

Realistically.....nothing ever >really< changes in Washington.

Abortion really doesn't impact my life except for the fact that unwanted childern end up growing up and becoming a major drain on our society.

I do love my country dearly.
I just hate George Bush.

later...


Hey Vernon, thanks for the kind words, you are good friend to me as well as we have known each other for a long time.

I hopefull that we can turn this country around and rescure from what seems to be a tailspin. I hope that Obama and his administation can at least help us get us going in the right direction. Funny things happen to people when they get to Washington though...

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Re: Who will win?

Postby Vernon » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:39 pm

Hey Bubbles,
You're Bubbles and I'm Conky Brother.
Good to meet you.

Conky couldn't exist without Bubbles.

Fuck anyone here who doesn't understand what we're talking about.
Conky always tells it like it is.

People need to lighten up.
You can't kill Conky.
You and I know that..

later....

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